Hi, this is the 8th IRC Japanese lesson at #JapaneseLessons over irc.rizon.org 
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This lesson has been given by tashi on 2006 January the 24th 9pm EST.
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The past few lessons have been about verbs and conjugating them. 
We've managed to cover most of the things you can do with verbs.
This lesson will be about using different conjugations and phrases and stuff.

---------------------------------------------- [ Japanese Educating System ] ---------------------------------------------- 

The Japanese education system has:
kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, high school, and then college.

	youchien 	=  kindergarten
	shougakkou 	=  elementary school
	chuugakkou 	=  middle school
	koukou 		=  high school
	daigaku 	=  college / university

The shou of shougakkou means small. It is also used in the expression, 

	shoushou omachi kudasai
	please wait a moment

It's much more polite than "chotto matte kudasai."

The chuu of chuugakkou means middle.  It's the same chuu as chuugokugo, which is the Chinese 
language, and in Japanese, China's name means "middle country."

The first kou of koukou means tall / high. It's like the adjective takai, which means tall and expensive.
The last kou in all of these is school or building.

Dai in daigaku means big. The same dai is used when using the adjective ookii, which means big.

The way years are split up:

	  1 - 6	 is elementary school
	  7 - 9	 is middle school
	10 - 12	 is high school

Students are called either gakusei or seito.
To say what grade you're in, it's the school plus the year you are there.
I'm in 11th grade, so I'm a high school second year according to the Japanese system.

	koukou ni nen sei
	high school 2nd year student

A first grader would be a 

	shougakkou ichi nen sei
	elementary school first year student

Mmkay, that's schools in a broad way. 

---------------------------------------------- [ Phrases Used During Class ] ------------------------------------------------- 

Getting more specific...

	Inside the gakkou, there are classrooms.		kyoushitsu = classroom
	Inside the classroom, there are kyoukasho.	kyoukasho = textbook

That kyou means education / learning.
The word for study is benkyou. But that kyou is DIFFERENT. D:
They look the same in romaji and are said the same. But the kanji are different, so they're easy to 
tell apart. The point of that is sometimes you can look at parts of words and see what they mean 
and use them in other places, but you shouldn't depend on it 100% all the time.

Okay, in the classroom you sit down in a seat

	isu 	=  chair
	suwaru 	=  sit

Let's assume your friend is walking around on his hands, on the wall, or something weird, and you 
want him to sit in a seat.

	isu ni suwatte kudasai

Or, if you want to be more commanding, 
	isu ni suwarinasai

Your friend could comply and apologize,
	hai, sumimasen
Or
	hai, gomen nasai
Or
	warui

warui means bad, and it's common to excuse yourself by saying "my bad" or equivalent.

So, let's say your friend is running down the hallway now and you want him to stop.

	noob-kun, hashiranaide kudasai

That's hashiru, to run, 
then put into base 1 hashira,
then made negative, hashiranai, 
then turned into te form with de, 
then made a polite request with kudasai.

Your friend might apologize less formally this time using gomen, or sumanai, or suman.

Okay, so the noun for "study" is benkyou, but to make it a verb?  What to do?! aaaah~  You use 
the auxilary verb suru, which means to do. You use it with a lot of nouns to make them verbs.
So, benkyou suru is "to study."

	nihongo o benkyou shimasu	=  to study Japanese
	nihongo o benkyou shite iru  	=  to be studying Japanese

	ima, minna wa nihongo o benkyou shiteimasu ne
	right now, all of you are studying Japanese.

Oshieru is to teach. The kanji used in oshieru is the same as the kyou in classroom and textbook.

	ima nihongo o oshiete imasu
	right now, I'm teaching Japanese.

If you were paying attention, you should've noticed that oshieru is an ichidan verb.
narau is to learn, so learning is naratte iru.
	
	minna nihongo o naratteimasu
	you all are learning Japanese

---------------------------------------------------- [ Listing Items Phrases ] ---------------------------------------------------- 

I'll teach you a few ways of making lists right now.  First, some vocab.

	tsukue 		= desk
	tokei 		= clock
	sensei 		= teacher
	mado 		= window
	mayaku 	= narcotic drugs
	oyatsu		= snacks

To give a complete listing of something, you use the particle to.

	senshuu ringo to banana wo tabeta
	Last week I ate an apple and a banana.

To give an incomplete list, similar to an etc at the end, you can use toka.

	kyoushitsu ni tsukue toka isu toka mado toka mayaku ga arimasu
	in classrooms there are things like desks, chairs, windows, drugs, etc.

Another way to incompletely list things is using the particle ya. I could say,

	koko ni crand-san ya Kuzu-san ya bd_ ga imasu 
	crand, kuzu, and bd_ are here (but not only them)

--------------------------------------------------------- [ Even If " mo " ] ---------------------------------------------------------- 

And since I'm me, I'm going to give you a verb lesson here.
If you put mo after a verb in te form, then it means "even if."

	iku in te form is itte, so ittemo	means	   "even if (someone) goes."

You use the pattern [verb temo ii desu ka] to ask for permission, literally, "Is it good even if I (verb)?"

So if you're sleepy you ask your teacher,  (verb neru, to sleep)

	netemo ii desu ka? sensei
	May I sleep, teacher?		or	Is it okay even if I sleep, teacher?

The teacher naturally replies

	nete wa ikenai desu
	sleeping is not allowed (so like forbidding)
		ikenai = can not go

	sensei, banana o tabetemo ii desu ka
	teacher, may I eat a banana?

	banana o tabetemo kamaimasen
	even if you eat a banana, I don't care / I don't mind

So that means yes you can eat it :o
kamaimasen is from the verb kamau, which I taught you last time.

	toire e ittemo ii desu ka
	may I go to the toilet?

-------------------------------------------------------- [ School Phrases ] --------------------------------------------------------- 

If you're asked which subjects you like at school, you can say
	
	suugaku toka butsuri ga suki desu
	I like things such as math, physics, etc.

Obviously a lie. If you want to talk about classes you don't like, then you say

	nihongo no kurasu ga kirai desu = I dislike Japanese class

Again, obviously a lie. If you're chattering a lot,  oshaberi = chatter , then your teacher might yell

	shizuka ni shite kudasai!
	please be quiet
		shizuka = quiet
		shite kudasai = please do

In the school library you should be quiet. 

	shukudai o shita hou ga ii desu
	it is good to do your homework
		toshokan = library
		shukudai = homework

When you want to say "should something something" you get what you should do, conjugate the 
verb into plain past tense form... Just like te form but with a ta, and then put hou ga ii.  hou = way

	nihongo o benkyou shita hou ga ii desu
	you should study Japanese

	mayaku o tsukatta hou ga ii desu
	you should use drugs
		tsukatta is from tsukau = to use

If your classroom is hot, you can tell someone to open a window.

	mado o akete kudasai
	please open the window(s)
		akete from akeru = to open

Japanese doesn't distinguish between singular and plural, so it means both windows and window.

In Japanese schools, classes have class representatives / class presidents called iinchou.
At the beginning of class, the class president makes all the students stand up, bow to the teacher, 
and then sit down. The commands are kiritsu rei and chakuseki.

Japanese schools have lots of clubs and everyone is in a club.
The clubs are called whatever they are, then bu put after it to mean club.

	engi 	= acting
	engibu 	= acting club / drama club

	seifuku = school uniform

Pretty much everyone has to wear uniform.

If your classroom is kitanai (dirty), you can tell someone to clean it up.

	kirei ni shite kudasai

It's the same form as the shizuka ni shite kudasai.

	watashi no kyoushitsu wa kitanai desu
	my classroom is dirty

	tashi no kyoushitsu wa dou?
	Is tashi's room dirty? 

If you make a question without a question particle ka or no, be sure to inflect with your voice and 
raise the pitch to make it sound like a question.

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Ok well, that's a wrap. :o

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 ||  Homework  ||
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1. Watch part 6 of the video ( Japanese Basic 1 - 06 - Please Turn Left At the Corner )

2. Read lesson 6 in the textbook.

3. Go here and learn to read and write 5 more Katakana.
    http://www.japanese-name-translation.com/site/write_katakana.html
	sa, shi, su , se , so
	
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STUDENT LISTS :
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candrodor		Copycatken 		MN			S_and_M 
Kuzu			Corncobb 		monkeymachine 	SnakeBite| 
Mashiro-chan		Dravonic		morze 			Soriin_
Ryo-ohki		dude^2 			Neko-Musume		Takeya 
Vincent-MX		flippy 			NeO__			tearfate 
_usopp 			IceTiger 		netstat 			Tetsu 
AcridSaint 		inuyasharenegade	PaNDeR 		The_Paper
BBQ 			ipridian 			Paul^			TuncaCeleste 
bd_			Konowal 		peroxide		Uzumaki_Naruto_NT 
bjarnis 			Korokun 		Progeny 		Vanilla_icemarle 
BpPhantom 		Kowai`			R0N1N 			xenokite
BraiN 			L_FRoST 		rane 			Xistance
CarrierZ			MaXim 			Renato_kun		
Conspera 		Mazhule 		S4RGE 		

Thanks for coming! Do your homework!! 
And study all you can. !!    ~~tashi

Editors –  Candrodor, Vincent-MX, tashi
This is Version 2.0

Vincent-MX Bonus: Behind the scene:
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Copycatken	: you say kyoukasho is textbook
tashi		: it is
Copycatken	: but in the yan videos, they say its a tekisuto
tashi		: wtm lol. yeah i guess it's that too. that's the engrish way to say it though
ravonic		: i`ve noticed that too o.O

Copycatken	: kyoukasho is in hiragana and tekisuto is katakana?
tashi		: right, and kyoukasho has kanjis too.
Copycatken	: alright

tashi		: um kurasu and jugyou is the same ish
		  jugyou is japanese for class, kurasu is... a new engrish way to say it

Copycatken	: also um, you said last week that hanasu means to speak right?
tashi		: it does :O
Copycatken	: I've heard hanase and from context, I seem to understand that it means "let go" 
		  or something. Not the same verb right?
NeO___		: same,  hanasu can be set free and speak.
tashi		: different kanjis
Copycatken	: makes sense =)

BBQ_		: for god sake, why can't I get into #LearnJapanese ?
tashi		: register your nick.

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This 8th lesson by tashi was re-edited by      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Vincent-MX  V2.0  
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Thanks to " Candrodor "  for a good clean log.

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